Hybrid Star/Optimal CARMA Con gurations for Cedar Flats Glen R. Petitpas University of Maryland College Park MD, USA 20742 I present results from my attempt to nest 5-arm star C and D arrays in between the existing A,B and E arrays of Helfer 2003 for the purpose of simplifying the required road and cable trenches for the more compact arrays. We have generated C and D arrays that uses the existing A,B and E array pads, and places the other pads needed for C and D arrays within the confines of a 5-arm star with arms of width 10 metres. The beam properties are respectable, but the overall result is that there are too many constrained parameters for our beams to be competitive unless the cost savings are significant. These configurations save money by populating the entire set of 5 configuration with just 51 antenna pads and may significantly simplify the road and cable trenching requirements in the inner few hundred metres. The savings need to be assessed in more detail.